Hi, I'm Kate. And I'm Lori. We've always thought that the most compelling story

strikes the perfect balance between an honest look at the mess of life and the humor that can be found in the mess.

To be perfectly honest, we don't really know how to live life without both the humor and the authenticity.

Our podcast might be a little bit of whiplash at times. We can spin from hard, We don't really know how to live life without both the humor and the authenticity.

Our podcast might be a little bit of whiplash at times.

We can spin from hard and deep to humor and laughing on a dime.

The hard will be really hard and the truths we share are the ugliest of humanity.

We don't intend to make it seem like it's all fine or to pretty up the pain.

But we also know that the joy we found is all the more profound because of the pain. So we hope you can stick with us through the ugly

because there will also be joy and hope and humor. Welcome to the ugly truth about the girl

next door. Hello, this is Lori.

Kate and I just wanted to provide a little intro to this next episode.

So we've been hearing feedback from folks that sounds like it's, for some, it's starting to feel

like this started out as Kate's sharing and exploring her experience of trafficking.

And some are giving feedback, suggesting that it seems that we're veering off into territory of kind of targeting the chapel unfairly.

That it is, I don't know, some folks seem to think that it's a distraction.

I can understand that. We have done several episodes that seems specifically to be addressing

the chapel. So I just, Kate and I wanted to share that, yes, we are addressing concerns about

the chapel, really more in the sense that it's important

for people to understand that the failure to respond in a way that is supportive and decisive

to allegations of abuse is a very important second wounding of people who have been already harmed by the misuse of power and authority in an abusive way.

And so what we're trying to highlight here is the need for accountability and the need to educate ourselves as to how to

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