Welcome to the propaganda report. This is Monica Perez with my co-host Brad

Bingley and our special guest today who may need no introduction to our listeners.

Binkley and I both agree he is an original gangster in the truth and

podcasting realms we both remember early days even though I'm

sure you're younger than I am but you're way ahead of me on carving a path

through the truth and finding what's really hidden behind the trees.

My first exposure to you is a John Taylor Gatto interview, which I mentioned many many times in the years since I first saw that.

Some people might know you from that platform which was Tragedy and, or the podcast Peace Revolution.

Today, your signature, your marathon podcast

is your Sunday Night Grand Theft World.

And we have also shared a screen a few times on Union of the Unwanted, which is a privilege. So it was inevitable that we would get together. It is a pleasure to have you today. Richard Grove, welcome.

Monica, thank you for that warm, genuine, spontaneous introduction. I think that's one of the

best intros I've ever had. Brad, nice to meet you. I'm fans of your work and I'm excited here to have a power-packed hour of knowledge exchange given that, unlike most of the interviews I do, like you have also a knowledge of these things now for yourself that is

showcase worthy so this is going to be an exciting conversation I look forward to

it all week. Thank you so much I really appreciate that and there's one thing that I

always wondered from the very beginning of my exposure to your work is you you came out from the very beginning you were very professional focused, you had none of the

histrionics or the stuff that some people who kind of exploit the

appeal of a deeper truth that resonates that is left completely

undiscussed in the mainstream.

It's very easy to try to make it larger than it is to sensationalize it.

But you never did that.

You talk, you have facts, you have resources that you talk you have facts you have resources you're always very polished and I just I wonder that kind of thing takes a lot of effort focus and commitment And there was probably no expectation.

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