Hello, welcome to How to Win 2024. It's Friday, July 19th. I'm Jennifer

Palmieri and here with my co-pilot Claire McCaskill who is back after a week of

vacation, but I feel like I've seen you so much that I don't feel like you've been on vacation at all.

I don't feel like I've been on vacation at all.

Tell you the truth, I'm flat-worn out.

I barely remember you being gone, but I guess you were gone.

I was gone and believe me, I was tempted to stay gone. you know I just you know we have a

you know I just you know we have a conversation here every week and I think it's

really important to say at the very top of this week how emotionally difficult it is for anybody who cares deeply

about this process. This is really hard stuff. I mean, President Biden is my friend.

Yeah, me too. And I think people I mean President Biden is my friend.

Yeah, me too.

And I think people that are out there screeching online one way or the other,

I think we've got to just take a moment to realize that the reason this is so hard is because it's painful,

emotionally painful. It's

emotionally painful and also it's such a close call about you're scared by you know you feel like the current option isn't working but you open door number one and like what are you unleashing into the world right so

after the debate that first weekend when everybody was like oh it's gonna drop out

you know he's like he's not gonna drop out it's a drop out 48 hours after the debate, like nor should we want him to, like none of that, you know, it's going to take at least three weeks to sort this out and that's going to be painful, but that's okay because you got to get it right and you

got to make the best decision you can because of everything that's at stake and

people talk about there's all this infighting of Democrats it's like no that's

not what's happening.

No what it is is people are trying to figure it out. People are trying to figure

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