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Controversial Thoughts: What I missed most during my trip to Africa

Paul Saladino MD podcast

Paul Saladino, MD

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.82.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2021

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

It’s good to be back in the US. My trip to Tanzania to hunt with the Hadza was amazing, and the meals I shared with them were incredible…

The meat we had hunted in the bush earlier that day, along with honey and baobab we had found along the way- truly radical…

Ironically, It was much harder to always get good food in “civilization” and this was the hardest part of the trip…

In this edition of Controversial Thoughts, I share a bit about these struggles and the “creep” of processed foods into our food supply, making it difficult to obtain really good food unless we are very intentional about what we are eating! #theremembering

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Transcript

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0:00.0

What is up you guys? Welcome to another edition of controversial thoughts. This is another on the road edition of this little mini podcast, but I wanted to share a few of my thoughts about my trip to Tanzania.

0:17.0

There's going to be a whole podcast coming about this next week, hopefully with my buddy, Anthony Gustin, who I went with, but I want to do a little micro a few micro shares before that happens.

0:29.0

I talked about this in my newsletter this morning. If you are not subscribed to my newsletter, go to heart and soil.co. I write little daily newsletters with stuff that I hope will be helpful for you guys and then longer additions on Sunday, which includes science and all kinds of things.

0:46.0

I've been thinking about this week. But one of the thoughts I had this morning and what I want to talk about briefly in this little controversial thoughts video is the thing that I missed most while I was in Tanzania.

1:01.0

And I think that this was definitely the ability to control my own food completely to know where all of my food was coming from. If you guys heard the podcast earlier this week with my friend, Montseldenton about hunting and whether it's a fundamental part of the human experience, you'll have some idea of the fact that when you are hunting.

1:23.0

Our history as humans is as hunter gatherers and these people that I stayed with in Tanzania, the hodza are some of the last remaining hunter gatherers on the planet. When you hunt and gather your food, when I spent time walking in the bush with them, walk about quote unquote, we knew exactly where the food we were eating had come from.

1:42.0

We killed the baboon, we killed a genit cat, we killed a, which is also known, which is a small cat in the bush, we killed a bush baby, which is also known as a galago, it's a small nocturnal primate.

1:56.0

And we killed a couple of dictics, which are small ruminants, like very many deer. We also gathered a few bowel, bowel, fruit along the way, which are delicious, by the way.

2:08.0

We found a little tiny straws that these either stingless bees used to make canoa in the bawa bob or other trees or stinging bees, which have full on hives in other trees as well.

2:26.0

So we were hunting and gathering food, we knew exactly where it was coming from. There were no additives, there were no pesticides, there were no seed oils, there was no processed sugar, there were no colorings, there were no flavorings, there were no dyes.

2:37.0

There was nothing funky in our food, we knew exactly where it was coming from and when we were hunting these animals, we knew what we were getting and then we would take them back to camp and cook them very fresh over a fire.

2:48.0

And those were some of the best meals I've had in my life, those were definitely the best meals and the best food I had while I was in Tanzania.

2:56.0

Being in the cities and towns, which are quote more modern or modernized or quote civilized, the food quality was much lower and it was much more difficult to control my food.

3:10.0

Despite the fact that at every junction I talk to my guides and the waiters and the people who are serving us food in the towns.

3:20.0

And I tried to communicate to them through Swahili, which is obviously a language barrier, but some of them spoke some English that I didn't want seed oils that I didn't want sauce is that I didn't want anything funky in my food, I just wanted them to take meat and put it on a grill and grill it.

3:35.0

And that was very hard and there were a number of times on my trip that I got meat that clearly had some kind of seed oil or some kind of non-talo non animal fat on it that they cooked it in that that this in their modernized civilized world has become more of the norm.

3:56.0

Unfortunately, seed oils have crept into even rural Tanzania and you would see them on the side of the road there would be roadside stands everywhere with fruit that was grown locally, probably sprayed with some degree of pesticide, unfortunately, because we would see that as well.

4:14.0

And then we would also see just plastic bottles of seed oils and it was so ironic talking to one of the guides from our trip saying that he's been told by his physician to naughty animal fat to naughty tallow because animal fat and red meat causes diabetes according to this guy.

4:34.0

And then he's telling me this doesn't make any sense to me and I'm hearing what you're doing Paul and I remember the story of my grandmother he's telling me who lived to 110 and this is just one anecdote and who knows if that record keeping those accurate with her age, but she actually told him his name is gasper.

4:51.0

And then the whole gasper if you want to be my friend bring me animal fat bring me cow fat don't bring me these quote flower referring to sunflower oils when you go to the grocery stores quote unquote in Tanzania I was specifically in a ruchia and other small towns they have seed oils on the shelf and next to it they have tallow often and the seed oils are much more expensive than tallow.

5:16.0

So there's this total distortion of what is actually healthy and they're really 20 to 30 years behind in terms of their medical knowledge and no one there in the medical establishment that I came in contact with in any way shape or form is questioning the notion that these seed oils might be problematic for humans but as you will hear in the podcast.

5:34.0

Anthony gust and observationally the correlation is clearly there as I've said multiple times the hods are don't eat any seed oils they have all animal fat they look very healthy they do not suffer from chronic disease you move into the cities people become obese fat and rates of diabetes are skyrocketing now there are many variables this is not a causative

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