Shannon Popkin recognizes a temptation she has when dealing with other people.

I have lunged after control in hundreds, maybe thousands of ways, and I can tell you that I have never been able to maintain control.

It can't be done. And really, I just interject pain. I interject strife.

This is the Reviver Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgameth, author of Lies Women Believe for Monday, April 21st, 2025.

I'm Dana Gresh. Well, I love how the Lord puts together relationships and friendships

through the ministry of Revive Our Hearts and True Woman.

And our guest today is, well, Shannon, I've heard about you for years and years from our good

mutual friend, Deborah

Faisenfeld.

She was Deb Showers when you knew her in college.

You guys go back.

Well, actually, I knew her even before then.

So I've known her a long time.

She's known you a long time.

And for years, she's been saying to me, you need to get to know Shannon Popkin.

She said she writes and she loves studying the

Bible and she's really gifted. And you have been writing for the True Woman blog for a number of

years. So a lot of our listeners have read you on the blog. And if they haven't, they need to. I love the

way you tell a story. I love the way you weave it into scripture. And finally, it's about time. We've got you in the studio today to talk about a new book. But before we talk about the book, I want to just say welcome to revive our hearts.

Thanks so much, Nancy. It's really fun to be here. And if our listeners have read any of your blog posts, they know that you are an energetic,

vivacious, outgoing, storytelling, fun woman.

So I think people are going to really experience that and enjoy that as we talk over the next two or three days.

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