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🗓️ 12 February 2025
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Donald Trump and Elon Musk are now on the receiving end of multiple court orders requiring them to rein in their constitutional crime spree: resume impounded payments, destroy improperly downloaded government data, restore regular government communications. Their response, as of this recording, has been to see how contemptuous they can be of the orders, and musing openly about outright defiance.
In this episode, Matt and Brian discuss:
* What, specifically, precipitated this legitimation crisis?
* If the Trump administration’s announces it will disregard district court orders, is it time to take to the streets?
* Is Kendrick Lamar likelier to shatter the MAGA coalition than professional Democrats?
Then, behind the paywall, how well, if at all, are Democrats responding to the prospect of a completely lawless presidency? Should they be more plainspoken about how they will use their power to restore the rule of law? If Trump will ignore district court orders enjoining his efforts to impound money, will he also ignore them if he tries to spend money absent a congressional appropriation?
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Further reading:
* Matt on why there are many, many better forms of resistance than doomscrolling.
* Cass Sunstein on the high price of ignoring the social cost of carbon. (Trust us, it’s relevant.)
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0:00.0 | They did a DEI Super Bowl presentation because everybody knows that without affirmative action, |
0:07.0 | African Americans have never been able to succeed in the field of music. |
0:16.1 | Hey, everyone, you're listening to a free preview of the politics podcast. |
0:19.9 | So as we record this Tuesday |
0:21.5 | morning, we're in a bit of a limbo state where the Trump administration is musing pretty |
0:26.6 | openly about defying court orders and seems to be actually openly in violation of at least some |
0:33.1 | standing court orders, which means we're about as close as we can be to, I think, what they call |
0:39.8 | an autocratic breakthrough moment, where the only remedies available after you cross that point |
0:45.5 | to preserve constitutional democracy are impeachment and removal or a more radical kind of resistance. |
0:53.0 | So in this episode, we'll talk about what precipitated this |
0:55.6 | standoff and what we might expect going forward from politicians and the public. If you want to hear |
1:01.8 | the whole conversation, you can upgrade your subscription to paid at politics.fm. |
1:09.9 | Hey, everyone. Welcome to the politics podcast. I'm Brian Boitler. |
1:13.0 | I'm Matthew Glacius. We're out of our usual locations. |
1:16.6 | Yeah. For people viewing at home. |
1:18.4 | From the Trump regime. |
1:19.8 | I'm in my kitchen without a desk and suffering from the flu or something. |
1:25.3 | I'm at a hotel. |
1:26.1 | I look like Tim Poole, but I promise I don't take any Russian intelligence money. |
1:32.1 | This week, we're kind of peering over the precipice at the de facto end of American democracy. |
1:39.5 | And Matt thinks I'm running a little hot. |
1:42.1 | But I've got to say, I don't like where we sit. |
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