That tells you that there is a hunger for privacy that people do not want to have third-party

entities tracking them and selling the data to data brokers.

Do we really need to have all these apps leaking out our precise geolocation to conduct

commerce in the United States?

Does the answer is no?

I'm Mary Long and that's Tom Kemp, a cybersecurity expert, angel investor and author of the new

book, Containing Big Tech, how to protect our civil rights economy and democracy.

Teacher Willard caught up with Tom to talk about biometric data and new frontiers in the

battle for privacy, how AI regulators could find inspiration from the grocery store, and

some perfect world solutions that balance data collection and personal privacy.

I really enjoyed the book and I just want to start with the most basic thing, the title,

so Containing Big Tech, what is it and why is it necessary?

Absolutely, so as you mentioned, we have five big tech companies, we've got Meta, Apple,

Amazon, Microsoft and Google, and they've certainly built innovative products that improve many

aspects of our lives, but what we're now seeing is becoming more aware of is that their intrusiveness

and our dependence on them have created some pressing threats to our civil rights or economy and

democracy and those threats include the over-collection of our data, the potential problematic ways

that AI can be used, and the stifling of competition and entrepreneurship due to their dominant

marketing position. So with this book, I wanted to expose the consequences of big tech's digital

surveillance, their use of AI, their monopolies, but I also wanted to provide solutions and I think

by containing the excess as a big tech, I believe we can ensure that our civil rights are preserved,

economy is competitive and healthy and our democracy is protected.

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