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everything secure. This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage

of the case against Karen Reid. It is, and we are breaking down today where it all stands

as we, as of recording of this, getting close close to closing statements and then it will be in the hands of the jury.

Who knows what's going on by the time you watch this?

Maybe Karen just flew to the moon randomly.

Just flew up and did it because it's possible but not probable.

We've learned that about vehicles flying into space with UFOs in this trial.

Lots of things we've learned.

Do you want me to discuss?

Eric Fattis, defense attorney, former prosecutor.

I got a lot of things I want to kind of break through today, but first I just want to

throw it to you.

Here we are.

Both sides have gone.

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