Conspiracy Month: Morbid - Elisa Lam, False Accusations, & the Dangers of Web Sleuthing

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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🗓️ 28 December 2022

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Metal musician and filmmaker Pablo "Morbid" Vergara, who appeared in the Netflix docuseries "Crime Scene: The Vanishing at the Cecil Hotel," shares what drew him to metal music and its horror-centric imagery, and how his dark persona led to him being accused by strangers of murdering Elisa Lam--despite the fact that he was there a full year before her. He'll discuss the suffering he experienced as a result of the harassment, including a suicide attempt, making art again, and the importance of mental health awareness. CHECK OUT OUR NEW MERCH!!! bit.ly/trustmemerch Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or abuse of power? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at [email protected] INSTAGRAM: @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER: @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK: @TrustMeCultPodcast

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0:00.0	If you have your own story of being in a cult or a high control group or if you've had
0:04.1	experience with manipulation or abuse the power that you'd like to share, leave us a message
0:08.4	on our hotline number at 347-86 trust. That's 347-868-7878 or shoot us an e-mail at TrustMePod
0:18.2	at gmail.com. Trust me, do you trust me? Trust me, I'm like a smart person. Yeah, I've never
0:25.6	lied to you. I never have lied. If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!
0:32.5	Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cult, extreme belief and manipulation from two
0:37.5	metalheads who've actually experienced it. I'm Lola Blanc, and I'm Megan Elizabeth.
0:41.9	Today, our guest is musician and filmmaker Pablo Vergara, a K.A. Morbid, whom you may recognize
0:47.2	from Netflix's docuseries on Alisa Lamb called crime scene. We're going to look at conspiracy
0:51.5	theories from a different angle today. From the perspective of a victim of a web sleuths,
0:56.3	who are, in my opinion, a form of conspiracy theorist that we frequently think of as useful.
1:01.5	Pablo is going to tell us about his history as a death metal musician, how metal as an art form
1:05.5	frequently incorporates horror elements and how uploading one video from the Cecil Hotel as a
1:10.1	goth guy led to him being accused by armchair detectives of murdering Alisa Lamb, even though
1:15.3	the evidence clearly showed he was there an entire year before her. He'll talk about the consequences
1:19.5	these accusations had on his life, including losing all of his art, feeling afraid to keep
1:24.5	making music and suffering from such severe anxiety and depression as a result of cyberbullying
1:30.2	that he made a suicide attempt. Plus what you can do if you are experiencing harassment and how
1:35.1	you're not alone. Warning, we will be talking about mental illness and suicide, but Pablo's story
1:40.8	is super interesting, so if you can handle it, keep listening. Before we dive in with him, Megan.
1:47.6	It's holiday week. Christmas just happened. What's your coolest thing this holiday time?
1:53.8	God, it's new years, dude. I'm so scared of it. I, okay, there's so many things like I stopped
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