Conspiracies Then and Now: Templars and the Deep State

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USC Dornsife Center for the Political Future

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🗓️ 23 March 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

CPF Director Bob Shrum is joined by historians Sean L. Field and Julien Théry, filmmaker Kristin Pichaske, and best-selling Author Michael Shermer to discuss the history of the Templars and how similar trends target America’s civic institutions, drawing on events from the Kennedy assassination to 9/11.

Featuring:

Robert M. Shrum - Director of USC Dornsife Center for the Political Future and Carmen H. and Louis Warschaw Chair in Practical Politics

Sean L. Field - Professor of History at the University of Vermont

Kristin Pichaske - Award-winning Filmmaker, "Pulling The Thread;" Associate Professor of Cinema and Television Arts at Columbia College Chicago

Julien Théry - Professor of History at Université Lyon II Louis Lumière in Lyon, France

Michael Shermer - Best-Selling Author and Founding Publisher of Skeptic magazine

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Bully Pulpit from the University of Southern California Center for the Political Future.
0:11.7	Our podcast brings together America's top politicians, journalists, academics, and strategists from across the political spectrum for discussions on hot-button issues where we respect
0:22.0	each other and respected truth. We hope you enjoy these conversations.
0:28.9	My name is Jay Rubinstein. I'm director of the Center for the Pre-Modern World here at USC Dornside,
0:35.1	and it's my privilege to welcome you to day two of our symposium,
0:39.9	conspiracies then and now. When we look at conspiracies and conspiracy theories, as they
0:45.1	happen in the distant past, as they're happening today, and we try to draw lessons out of that
0:51.8	exercise. Yesterday, we had a great time talking about conspiracies in general,
0:58.0	about theories of conspiracy. We talked about how anti-Semitism has played along and troubling
1:04.4	role in the history of conspiracies. And we concluded with a talk about how ideas and language of conspiracies travel.
1:12.6	Today we're going to do some deep dives into more fun and well-known conspiracies,
1:18.6	including the Templars, the deep state, and maybe the biggest conspiracy of them all, the end of the world.
1:26.6	So thanks for joining us.
1:28.1	Thanks to my colleagues at the Center for the Political Future and the Rancho Mirage Writers Festival,
1:34.1	who really made this fabulous event possible.
1:37.5	And with that, I would like to pass the mic over to Bob Schrum, my colleague at the Center for the Political Future,
1:43.8	who will oversee and
1:45.2	moderate our first panel, Bob.
1:48.1	All right. Good morning, everyone. For most of the next hour, we're going to focus on the Templars,
1:53.7	but we're also going to apply the lessons of the Templars to a lot of what we're experiencing
1:59.4	today. They were one of the West's most trusted institutions.
2:04.0	And then suddenly they were condemned, accused of sodomy,
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