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Electoral Dysfunction

Conservatives v Reform: Battle for the Right

Electoral Dysfunction

Sky News

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.4764 Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Nigel Farage's Reform won more than 40% of seats at May's council elections. The Conservatives lost control of 16 English councils and won 20% of seats - one of the lowest proportions in the past two decades.  
  
How do the Tories make sure they keep right-wing voters at future elections?  
  
Beth talks to shadow chancellor, and former work and pensions secretary, Mel Stride on this episode about that challenge.  
  
He also talks about adapting to life on the opposition benches and why he believes Kemi Badenoch is the right leader for his party.   

Interview with Mel Stride recorded on July 15th.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, dysfunctioners, it's Beth here with another summer special.

0:13.8

After spending the last week, unpacking the Labour government's first year in power.

0:18.2

This week, I want to flip the script.

0:20.1

We're going to the other side of the House of Commons to examine the state of the opposition

0:25.0

because there's been a dramatic shift.

0:31.8

I actually think that reform are going to replace the conservativesatives at the next election because they seem

0:39.1

to have an argument and they seem to know what that argument is at a time when the Conservatives

0:44.8

don't have an argument and don't know what they stand for and they are also building up

0:49.9

their organisation. So who is the official government opposition? That was Harrett on the pod earlier this

0:55.7

year and you could argue she's got a point there. Reform UK have had a bump a year. They won 41%

1:02.3

of council seats up in the mayor elections and they seem to be celebrating Tory defactions

1:07.6

month after month. They're very good at the moment, I have to say, about grabbing

1:12.2

the mic. And so I spent a lot of time this year with one of Reform's loudest voices and arguably

1:17.9

one of their most important players right now. Now, ladies and gentlemen, we have a new dawn

1:25.3

in British politics.

1:29.7

Is that a sign?

1:34.5

The rebuilding begins here.

1:40.1

Today, we as reform, as we're making gains up and down the country,

1:43.2

you will see an end to soft touch Britain.

1:47.6

That was Dame Andrea Jenkins, reforms's mayor of Greater Lincolnshire,

1:49.7

who herself defected from the Tories.

1:52.7

Remember, she was a minister in Boris Johnson's government and one of his biggest cheerleaders.

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