This week on Conservative Crossroads, should Senate Republicans require filibustering senators to debate on the floor?

Rachel Bovards says yes. Dan McLaughlin says no. The talking filibuster coming up on Conservative Crossroads now.

Welcome back to Conservative Crossroads, the podcast where conservatives lean into their disagreements rather than deny them. I'm Henry Olson, senior fellow at the Ethics and Public

Policy Center, and your host for this series. We've heard a lot about the filibuster, and we've heard a lot about what's

called the talking filibuster, the sort of thing you grew up on if you watched Mr. Smith

goes to Washington, where senators actually have to debate on the floor rather than simply file

a motion and hold up a bill that way. Should the Senate Republicans require a return to the old pattern

or continue with the recent practice of permitting simply a filed motion to hold up debate?

We have with us to debate this to people who have gone at it online and now they'll

civilly discuss it for you. We have Rachel Beauvard,

vice president of programs at the Conservative Partnership Institute, and Dan McLaughlin, senior writer

at National Review and a fellow at the National Review Institute. Each person will have five minutes

to give an opening statement, and then mutually question one another for another 40 to 50

minutes and then each will conclude with two minutes of concluding remarks done in reverse order

of the initial statement. Dan, you're up. All right. So thanks, Henry. So, you know, really, look, first of all, I'm a conservative. So I tend to favor the status quo. I tend to favor federalism. I tend to favor deliberation. And I tend to favor, you know, rules that favor outcomes I want. And principles are a compass, not a straight jacket, but in this case, I think all the signs

point in the same direction, which is that the Senate filibuster threshold of 60 votes in order

to get a floor vote on legislation is a good one. It's time tested. It's proven well. It holds back a lot more nonsense

that conservatives don't want than what it, you know, restricts us from doing. And, you know,

we can debate sort of the details of whether we consider the 60 vote threshold a rule or an

interpretation of a rule or a practice, but it is fundamentally how the Senate operates these days

has been for some time and it is it has operated as a real constraint on both parties in passing

legislation um and i think that is a good thing that that we should not want to burn down um

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