This week on conservative crossroads, the tariff debate is it spurring reindustrialization

or does it hurt everyday Americans? Mark Diplacito for tariffs?

The conservative and Republican tradition in the United States has always deferred to protection for U.S.

industries. Richard Stern against tariffs. Long before China

declared war on our manufacturing base, the EPA did, the Department of Labor did. And I think

that's a crucial part of this story. On Conservative Crossroads coming now.

Welcome back to Conservative Crossroads.

The programs where conservatives discuss their differences rather than deny them.

Today's program looks at what UF's tariff policy should be.

And my guest today are Mark DePlicido, senior political economist at American Compass, and Richard Stern, vice president of the Plymouth Institute for Free Enterprise at Advancing

American Freedom. We decided prior to broadcast that Mark would go first and talk about what he

thinks tariff policy should be for five minutes, followed by

Richard and then followed by intramural questioning. Gentlemen. Sure. Well, thank you so much

for having me, Henry. I guess I'll start off by kind of laying out what I think the ideal metrics

for a U.S. terror policy should be. We can get into more details, I guess, on how what the ideal metrics for a U.S. Terrap policy should be.

We can get into more details, I guess, on what the ideal way to implement that might be.

And then I'll give a few reasons why I think this shift in trade policy, really that we've been seeing for the last year, has been a good thing for the United States.

So conceptually, I think the first, the most

concrete way to sort of anchor the discussion in my view is that I believe we should move from a

paradigm that that prioritizes neutrality and trade openness with one that grounds U.S.

trade policy in a results-based notion of balance.

What this would essentially mean is that the U.S. trade deficit, which the goods deficit was around

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