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Very excited to have friend of the podcast back. Richard M. Reinch the second.

I did not really remember the second part, but it's here in front of me.

He's the editor-in-chief of the Civitas Institute's Civitas Outlook.

He was the founding editor of the really fantastic online magazine, Law and Liberty,

and he's held positions at the American Institute for Economic

Research, Heritage Foundation, Before the Fall, Liberty Fund, etc. Runch's books include a constitution

in full recovering the unwritten foundation of American liberty and Whitaker Chambers, the

spirit of a counter-revolutionary. Richard, welcome back to the remit. Hey, thank you for having me. I apologize. I never read your Whitaker Chambers book. He's one of the guys, you know, I did this Who Was Leo Strauss episode once, when people liked it. Down the road, we should do a who was Whitaker Chambers. Oh, that would be wonderful. No, that was 2010, and it was this, ISI had this series of books on sort of foundational conservative thinkers, Bill Helm Rupka, Robert Nisbed, Ludwig von Mises, and others. And so I said, do you need one on Whitaker Chambers? But the response was the Sanannenhouse book was so good. It was good.

The writings that he had were not thick and voluminous, but what you had was really good stuff.

And so distilling that would be a service. Yeah, I have that collection. Was it notes on the roof or something?

Yeah. Notes. Yeah, I'm blanking. I shouldn't.

It's all right. I didn't mean to catch you off guard. For listeners, you should know, we were just chatting like two old ladies around the village well before the thing started about conservative stuff. And so we're still in that mode. And I'll try to professionalize this up in a second. Did you ever read the last piece Sidney Blumenthal wrote for the New Yorker as a staff writer before he joined the Clinton administration?

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