Hello, this is Richard Reinch, and welcome to this Saturday edition of the Daily Signal

podcast.

We are talking about new themes in American conservatism, new arguments, new contests.

Our guests are Sam Gregg, Arthur Millic, and Catherine Picolic.

Hello, this is Richard Reinch, you listen to another edition of the Daily Signal podcast.

Today, we're talking about conservatism and the American future with Sam Gregg, Research

Director at the Act in Institute, Arthur Millic, Executive Director at the Center for the

American Way of Life at the Claremont Institute, and Catherine Picolic, Associate Professor

of Economics at Catholic University of America.

So on our topic conservatism in the American future, there have been a lot of changes,

a lot of movement, so to speak, inside American conservatism on questions of size of government,

the use of government, political economy, culture and morality over the last five years.

Sam Gregg, this question for you, how do you see the conservative movement today in

relationship to the challenges the country overall faces?

One thing that I think is very heartening about the conservative movement is that not

only does it recognize that there are significant challenges, whether it's economic, national

security, social questions, but the conservative movement, I think, is much more willing, and

I think this is healthy, to debate and discuss these issues among themselves, because if there

isn't a discussion going on about how you deal with something like the rise of transgenderism,

all you how you deal with what's happening in China, all some of the economic challenges

that we're having, if there isn't a healthy debate going on, on the right, so to speak

about these issues, then I think you end up with group think, you also end up, I believe,

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