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Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Conservation Collective, Episode 1: Trails

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring

Zack Williams

Sports, Wilderness

4.8877 Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

While BHA's Podcast & Blast takes a moment to plan its next steps, we're sharing the first episode of our Conservation Cooperative podcast (recorded previously), which looks at a scenario playing out across North America -- one that the New England Chapter of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA) has been grappling with for a few years: the rapid development of recreation trails and their encroachment on wild places. We'll explore some of the factors that are driving trail development in the state of Vermont and how it impacts the conservation of our wildlands and wildlife. While we explore the issue in the Northeast, it's a discussion sure to resonate with public-lands advocates across the continent. 

Big thank you to everyone who came to the table to discuss this topic.

Ethan Dreisigacker. New England BHA Board Member

Meredith Naughton. Wildlife Biologist

Allison Adams. Director. Forest Ecosystem Monitoring Cooperative (FEMC)

Dave Furman. New England BHA Member

Andrea Shortsleeve. Private Lands Habitat Biologist. Vermont Fish & Wildlife

Nick Bennette. Executive Director. Vermont Mountain Bike Association (VMBA)

RJ Thompson. Executive Director. Vermont Huts Association

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, Chris here from backcountry hunters and anglers.

0:07.2

Welcome to the first episode of the New England and New York chapter's Conservation Cooperative.

0:12.3

So, as the title suggests, this is a show about conservation, where we will explore our

0:19.2

work to ensure North America's outdoor heritage of hunting

0:22.3

and fishing in a natural setting. In doing so, we aim to provide perspectives and voices beyond

0:28.5

just our own, hopefully painting a richer picture of the complexity and nuance of the issues

0:34.0

facing our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife.

0:41.6

In this episode, we're going to take a look at an issue the New England BHA chapter has been grappling with for a few years, the rapid development of recreational trails

0:46.2

and their encroachment on wild places.

0:49.0

We'll explore some of the factors that are driving trail development in the state of Vermont

0:52.7

and hear how it fits into the bigger picture of conservation.

0:57.0

Now let's be clear, we are all trail users. We think they're great, and there are clearly benefits to everyone from individuals to communities at large.

1:15.7

But it's well documented that they negatively impact wildlife, fragment habitat, and put a persistent human presence where there wouldn't otherwise be one.

1:26.9

Meet New England BHA board member, Ethan Dreisigacher.

1:30.4

I mean, this is actually how I got involved with BHA in the beginning.

1:35.0

You know, I'm a, I was a skier, a semi-professional skier by athlete for like five years.

1:42.4

And I've been a competitive skier for 30 years.

1:47.4

And I'm mountain bike and I run like I'm a trail user.

1:51.0

And then I think, you know, and I got it more and more into hunting.

1:54.0

I think I became more and more aware of like the effects that my presence has on wildlife.

2:04.6

And I think that's where I sort of started to realize like most of the time when you're

2:09.6

recreating on a trail, you're not thinking about that.

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