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Stay Tuned with Preet

Consciousness & COVID Ethics (with Sam Harris)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2020

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of Stay Tuned, “Consciousness & COVID Ethics,” Preet answers listener questions about Republican-appointed judges, Dr. Fauci’s blocked testimony, and John Bolton’s inapropos tell-all book. Then, Preet is joined by Sam Harris, neuroscientist, author, and host of the Making Sense podcast, to explore the nature of consciousness and the awakened mind. To listen to Stay Tuned bonus content, become a member of CAFE Insider. Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring analysis of politically charged legal news and updates from Preet. And if you haven’t already, listen to a sample from this week’s episode of the CAFE Insider podcast for free at CAFE.com or in the Stay Tuned feed. As always, tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with hashtag #askpreet, email us at [email protected], or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. REFERENCES & SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS Vote for Stay Tuned with Preet to win a Webby for the best News & Politics podcast series THE Q&A: “Rules of Procedure United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary,” Senate Judiciary Committee Oral Arguments in Judiciary Committee v. Don McGahn, D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, En Banc, 4/28/2020 Paul Kane and Seung Min Kim, “Trump’s judicial nominee clashes with Democrats over his comments critical of health care law,” Washington Post, 5/6/2020 Quint Forgey, “Trump Says Fauci Will Testify Before Senate, Blasts ‘House’ Set-Up,” Politico, 5/5/2020 Preet’s Retweet of Michael Isikoff’s Bolton Book Update, Twitter, 5/4/2020 THE INTERVIEW: Sam Harris, the Making Sense Podcast Sam Harris, the Waking Up App Sam Harris, Waking Up: Spirituality Without Religion, Simon & Schuster, 2014 Andrew Anthony, “Sam Harris: The New Atheist With a Spiritual Side,” The Guardian, 2/16/2019 MEDITATION: Sam Harris, “Mindfulness Meditation,” YouTube, 2015 Caren Osten Gerszberg, “My Week of ‘Noble Silence’,” New York Times, 12/6/2019 “Sam Harris Explains Why There’s No Free Will,” Inside the Hive with Emily Jane Fox and Joe Hagan, Vanity Fair, 10/25/2019 COVID-19 Sam Harris and Paul Bloom, Making Sense Episode #198, 3/16/2020 Chris Conover, “How Economists Calculate The Costs And Benefits Of COVID-19 Lockdowns,” Forbes, 3/27/2020 Gov. Andrew Cuomo, Tweet on Price of Human Life, Twitter, 3/24/2020 Jennifer Merceciera, “When Trump says he was being ‘sarcastic,’ it’s just part of his gaslighting,” Washington Post, 4/25/2020 GENETICS: Charles Murray and Sam Harris, “Forbidden Knowledge,” Making Sense, 4/22/2017 Ezra Klein and Sam Harris, “The Sam Harris-Ezra Klein Debate,” Vox, 4/19/2018 Sam Harris, “Ezra Klein: Editor-at-Large,” SamHarris.org, 3/27/2018 THE BUTTON: Heather Roney, Twitter, 4/4/2020 McKinley Corbley, “3D-Printing Teen Makes Hundreds of Ingenious Devices to Alleviate Ear Pain for Healthcare Workers,” Good News Network, 4/23/2020 Betty Nguyen, “Brooklyn teen making 3D-printed face shields for NYC hospitals amid COVID-19 crisis,” PIX11, 4/23/2020 Tameem Akhgar, “Ventilator from old car parts? Afghan girls pursue prototype,” AP News, 4/19/2020 Brent Crane, “The High Schooler Who Became a COVID-19 Watchdog,” The New Yorker, 3/20/2020 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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From Cafe, welcome to Stay Tuned. I'm Pete Barara.

0:59.9

Life has always been uncertain. None of us know how many heartbeat we have left. There's

1:06.9

a drumbeat of uncertainty here that all of us have been living with all the time. And

1:12.2

there is a way to make our peace with that, right? There's no alternative. Immortality

1:16.5

is not on the menu.

1:19.1

That's Sam Harris. He's a philosopher, a neuroscientist, and the author of best-selling

1:24.2

books about religion, meditation, and rationality. He is also the host of the Making Sense podcast.

1:30.8

In 2014, Harris published Waking Up, a guide to spirituality without religion, and four

1:36.1

years later launched a popular corresponding app which offers daily guided meditations.

1:41.8

Harris burst onto the cultural scene in 2004 with the publication of his provocative

1:46.3

book, The End of Faith. He soon became part of the New Atheism Movement, a loose group

1:51.6

of skeptics that included Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, and the late Christopher Hitchens.

1:57.2

Since then, Harris has become a passionate advocate for religious reform, meditation, and

2:01.8

freedom of speech. Today, Harris and I talk about the principles of meditation and the

2:06.0

role it can play in our response to crises like the coronavirus pandemic. We also discuss

2:11.2

the moral complexities of reopening society, the psychology of Trump supporters, and the

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