Hi, I'm Dr. Amy Robbins and welcome to life, death, and the Space Between podcast.

I'm a licensed clinical psychologist and medium. And here we explore life, death, consciousness,

and what it all means. Dr. Shamanee Jan is a psychologist, scientist, and social entrepreneur.

She is the founder and director of the Consciousness and Healing Initiative.

Chi, a collaborative accelerator that connects scientists, healing practitioners,

innovators, and social entrepreneurs to forward the science and practice of healing.

She was formed through Dr. Jan's deep desire to bring key stakeholders together to create a

coherent and effective movement, to move us beyond models of disease thinking and the decades

of the brain, into the study of systems-based healing

processes and personal and societal empowerment. Dr. Jan is also an assistant professor in the

Department of Psychiatry at UC San Diego and an active member of UC San Diego's Center for Integrative Medicine. Welcome. Thank you, Amy. It's a

pleasure to be here with you. Excited to chat with you today about sort of this integration of

healing. So can you talk first a little bit about what is biofield or bio the biofield or biofield science? Absolutely. So

sometimes I say biofield is a scientific term for a very old understanding. And the way we describe

biofield in, you know, in our Western scientific world are basically fields of energy and

information that guide our health. So what does

that mean? You know, there are parts of the biofield that we know very well already that are easily

measurable. Things like our electrocardiogram, right? We put electrodes on the heart and we measure

our heart rhythms and they can tell us a lot about our heart health. We do the same thing with

electroencephalograms, or EEGs, where we put electrodes on the scalp, and we're basically

measuring the electromagnetic readouts from the brain through the head, and those tell us something

about our state of consciousness, as well as our state of brain health. So these are examples of biofields that we know about,

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