Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4
American History Tellers
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🗓️ 28 January 2026
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
In the early 1950s, Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin were in a race to develop a vaccine against polio. While Salk’s killed-virus vaccine was the first to be distributed, Sabin continued working to perfect his own approach. In the end, Sabin’s oral polio vaccine—made from a weakened live virus—proved easier to administer and was ultimately distributed far more widely, though his name never achieved the same recognition. In this episode, Lindsay is joined by epidemiologist and oral historian Karen Torghele. Her book Albert Sabin: The Life of a Polio Vaccine Pioneer is due to be published by Yale University Press in June of 2026.
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| 0:00.0 | From Wondery, I'm Lindsay Graham, and this is American History Tellers, Our History, Your Story. In the first half of the 20th century, |
| 0:33.7 | terrified parents across America |
| 0:35.5 | braced for the arrival of summer, the start of polio season. |
| 0:39.3 | At the time, the illness was poorly understood, and the nation was desperate to find a way to protect against the so-called infantile paralysis. |
| 0:47.3 | While most people who became ill recovered, photographs of children in leg braces, using crutches, or confined to iron lungs, sent waves of |
| 0:55.5 | fear through communities across the country. But in the early 1950s, two scientists came to |
| 1:01.1 | define the race to develop a vaccine against polio, Jonas Salk, and Albert Sagan. And if you |
| 1:07.0 | ask people today who developed the polio vaccine, most will say Jonas Salk. |
| 1:11.8 | But SABIN created a vaccine too, one that proved crucial, though his name never earned |
| 1:16.6 | the same recognition. My guest today is working to change that. Karen Torgailey is an epidemiologist |
| 1:22.2 | and oral historian. Her book Albert Sabin, The Life of a Polio Vaccine Pioneer, is due to be published by Yale University Press in June of 26. |
| 1:31.5 | Our conversation is next. |
| 1:42.2 | Karen Torgailey, welcome to American History Tellers. |
| 1:44.9 | Thank you for having me. |
| 1:46.3 | So one of your earliest memories actually involves a polio outbreak in your own family. |
| 1:51.8 | I was wondering if you could share that story. |
| 1:53.7 | We lived in San Francisco when I was a child, and it was in the mid-1950s. |
| 2:00.3 | When just before the polio vaccine came out that Salk developed, |
| 2:04.7 | my brother was 12 and a half months older than me, so we were very close and good buddies. |
| 2:12.5 | He was three and a half and I was two and a half. |
| 2:15.3 | My first memory of anything is seeing him sitting on a table |
| 2:20.2 | with my dad moving his legs and asking him to move his legs and he was crying a lot. So because he |
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