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Good morning, Lori, and even Grace, America. Welcome back, whether you're watching on the Salem News channel, listening to your car, the Salem Radio Network, our affiliates. Thank you so much. Really grateful to have Admiral William

McRaven back as a guest on the program. Admiral McRaven has a book out this year,

conquering crisis, which is perfect for the Christmas present you need, for anyone who's

in authority over anything, because it's only a

question of when the crisis is going to hit. Admiral, welcome back. I got to tell you at the

tart, it's better to be lucky sometimes than smart. I got asked this morning the day after I finished

reading your book and making my outline to go on Fox and talk about seizing the Venezuelan freighter or tanker,

I said, you know, we've been doing this since 1990.

Admiral McRaven writes about that.

You did it when in the summer of April 1990 in the Indian Ocean?

Well, nice of course.

You're good.

Nope.

Good to be with you.

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