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Well, there's a lot of moving pieces in college athletics, especially on the financial side of things.

The Donald R. Shepherd, Director of Athletics, Ward Manuel, joins us today to go over some of those things that have been talked about, whether it's pension fund investment,

added scholarships. There's a lot. He joins us next on Conquering Heroes.

Welcome to your one-stop podcast for all things, Michigan Athletics.

Updates on every team on campus and interviews with players and coaches are all on the way. This is Conquering Heroes.

Here's your host, John Chanson.

Well, as promised, I am here with Athletic Director Ward, Manuel Ward.

Thanks for joining me, and there's been a lot of things going on. And it feels like we could have one of these podcasts or conversations about every single week.

Every day.

If we did it for the last two years, we probably wouldn't be caught up.

But I wanted to have you on because there's a lot going on.

We always talk about the finances of our athletic department.

And everything that's going on in the Big Ten right now,

along with the decision that the university made not to be a part of the California pension

fund that wanted to invest in the Big Ten.

So I want to talk to you about what it is, why we decided not to, and what this whole thing looks like moving forward.

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