Today on Conquering Heroes, we are joined by the leader of Michigan Athletics.

That is the Donald R. Shepard Director of Athletics.

He'll be with us in just a moment on Conquering Heroes.

Welcome to your one-stop podcast for all things, Michigan Athletics.

Updates on every team on campus and interviews with players and coaches are all on the way.

This is Conquering Heroes.

Here's your host, John Jansen.

Join now by the Donald R. Shepherd Director of Athletics Ward Manuel Ward.

Thanks for joining me.

It's been, it's been a year.

And there's been a lot of great.

There's been some challenges.

We'll get a chance to talk about all those in a minute.

But I know that you are about to take some time that you haven't taken in a long time.

You're going to detach a little bit. What's the occasion and what's happening?

So it's good to be with you, as always, John, and to speak to our fans is always a blessing

and something I enjoy. My wife and I just celebrated our 30th anniversary in April.

And I know I'm shocked, so I'm sure your audience, some of them are shocked that she

would stay with me this long.

So we're going on a trip to Greece and going to have an opportunity to step away and just rejuvenate and share and, you know, review

30 years of marriage and have fun.

It's a place she's, she and I have always wanted to go.

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