But let's talk about Connor, Steve, tell me, what is going on with Connor Murphy?

I want to ask Steve because Derek has analyzed him already, but Steve explained to me, you're from Holland.

So I, what's going on with him?

So there's two ways you can approach life, right?

And we all have our directions and our experimentation phases. So I experimented with recreational drugs when I was younger because I'm from Holland and it's literally everywhere.

You can't use steroids in Holland.

It's very frowned upon.

But weed and LSD and MDMA and all that stuff, no problem.

No problem at all.

Everybody, you know, or at least the people that I

use a talk with, everybody experimented to a certain extent. And I've done my fair share of

experimentation in my younger years. And then there's a couple people who continue with that and fall

off the bandwagon and turn into a guy like Connor Murphy, where everything is extreme and

you can't even relate to it anymore.

Now, I honestly think that, you know, eating feces and drinking urine, there was a April Fool's joke.

Yeah, yeah.

You never know, dude.

You never know.

No, you don't really know.

But eating another man's semen.

That's so far beyond me, i can't even begin to speculate how

why and i've i've met some interesting people in my days you know wait a minute wait a minute

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