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Here we go.

My name's Todd.

This is Kathy.

Welcome back to yet another episode of Zen Parenting Radio.

What is Zen Parenting Radio, you may ask?

It's a podcast.

And today we have an episode called Conversations We Love.

And we're going to introduce our guests in just a second.

But why listen to Zen Parenting Radio? Because you'll feel outstanding, and who doesn't want to feel

outstanding? And always remember a motto, which is that the best predictor of a child's will

being is a parent's self-understanding. And who did we steal that from, sweetie? Dan Siegel.

Dan Siegel. Oh, yeah. Still trying to figure that out that out. People are like, I can't find that quote.

And I'm like, I know I stole it from him.

It's somewhere in that book, right?

So you've seen it, Ellen?

Yeah, I knew exactly who that was.

Yes.

So on our show today is two friends that we just met, but actually Jason interviewed us a few months back.

And now we get a chance to interview him. So on today's show is

Jason Gaddis and Ellen Bader. They are a married couple, and I'm going to let them introduce

themselves what they do and why, and then I'll explain why we want to have them on. So ladies first,

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