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horticultural friends. And today, I'm joined by somebody who I've done two or three podcasts with,

Arrett Anderson, who I'm sure you will know is a garden designer and is on garden as well.

But she'll tell us more about all of that in a minute.

And I'm going to ask Henrique, but it's Henrik, to pronounce his surname, because I can't.

No, it's Scandinavian. Yeah, it is, it's German yeah yeah okay very good so and you spell

that because none of you will know how to spell that and you'll need to because I want to buy

what we're going to talk about which is an incredible book you spell that S-J-O with those two dots on top, like little eyes. M-A-N.

That's it.

Anyway, the reason that I've asked them to come on today is that Eric started talking to me about

this book that came out in the autumn, which is called the Essential Tree Selection Guide.

And it's published, it's one of those sort of Q Royal Botanic Garden books.

And honestly, it's unbelievable body of work.

And as I'm sure lots of you who will know if you listen to the podcast,

I'm quite a tome deliverer.

I'm a bit of a workaholic. And this is

the most extraordinary book, which makes any other sort of source book on trees look like a paperback,

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