Welcome to the Virgcast, the flagship podcast of Forced App Devesture.

I'm a friend David Pierce and I am stuck in my basement because this is the only camera and microphone that I have that works.

So I bought this thing, the DJI-Osmo Pocket 3, just to make these intros. I like being out in the world.

I like telling you guys what I'm up to. I like doing

fun stuff while we record the Virgcast. And then it broke. It was just sitting in my bag for reasons that I cannot

figure out. Just something about the gimbal stopped working.

So now I turn it on and it like sort of spins but not really and then I get this error

that just says gimbal protection over and over again. I don't know how to fix it.

I think I know what's wrong. There's a spot that's a little sticky, but the thing about these

gimbal cameras is that they're so delicate and so finicky. That's what makes them

cool, it's what makes them work. But it basically seems to have broken just because I like put it in my bag

and put a rolled-up sweater on top of it. Technology man. Anyway, we have an awesome show coming up for you today. We're going to do two things. First, we're going to talk about this weird sort of run of bills and legislation that we've gotten in Congress recently.

All of a sudden there's tons of momentum again on the Tik-Tok ban, on digital privacy legislation,

on AI, so we're going to try to figure out if any of this actually

means anything and if any of this is ever actually likely to become law. Then we're going to play

you a bit of a conversation I had at the Chicago Humanities Festival.

I talked to two filmmakers who are also the co-founders of an AI startup, which I just think is a fascinating

tension. What does it mean to be a creative person

in this world we live in right now

while also trying to build AI tools

that threaten to totally upend

the way that we do all of this creative work.

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