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Fresh Air

Congress's New Rebel Faction

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🗓️ 2 August 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has faced rebellions in his chamber, from the ultra conservative Freedom Caucus. Another hard right group, "the Twenty," is even more disruptive. These groups could lead us to a government to shutdown in the fall. Terry Gross spoke with New York Times congressional correspondent Annie Karni.

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0:00.0

This is fresh air, I'm Terry Gross.

0:02.5

We had planned an interview about how extreme and disruptive

0:06.2

the far right members of the House of Representatives

0:08.8

have become.

0:10.0

I recorded that interview with New York Times

0:12.0

congressional correspondent Annie Carney yesterday morning.

0:16.1

Later in the day, special counsel Jack Smith

0:19.0

indicted former president Donald Trump

0:21.6

on three counts of conspiracy to defraud the US,

0:25.4

to obstruct an official government proceeding,

0:27.9

and to deprive people of civil rights

0:29.8

provided by federal law or the Constitution.

0:33.4

There's also a fourth count of obstructing

0:35.3

an official proceeding.

0:37.4

On January 6, the day of the attack on the Capitol,

0:40.4

Annie Carney was a New York Times White House correspondent.

0:43.7

She came back to the studio this morning

0:46.1

to discuss the new charges against Trump.

0:48.6

A little later, we'll hear the interview I recorded

0:51.0

with her yesterday.

0:52.6

Annie Carney, thank you for coming back to the studio.

0:55.6

Thanks for having me.

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