This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Wednesday, June 17, 2015.

I'm Caleb Brown.

The President says he doesn't want to go along with budget controls.

He himself signed into law in 2011, but the GOP is more than willing to go along with the president.

In fact, congressional Republicans have already circumvented budget controls on defense.

Cato Budget Analysts Nicole Kating discusses the budget dance in Washington.

What the president has said yesterday and has said several times over the last two months

is that if any bill that Congress sends to his desk that sets

the spending levels to match this 2011 debt ceiling deal called the Budget Control Act,

any bill that gets to his desk that meets this levels,

he will veto.

Meaning that levels that are low enough

to not trigger sequestration.

That's correct.

Well, the president in essence is saying is that he wants to increase spending and he wants to increase

it even faster than they agreed to do it in 2011.

But Republicans are more than happy to go along with the president

in terms of getting rid of these spending cuts.

What the White House and what Congress is doing right now is basically a dance.

They're showing off and saying, okay, the Democrats and the White House would like to increase

the non-defense part of the budget.

The Republicans in Congress, the vast majority of them,

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