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Welcome to Straight White American Jesus. My name is Brad O'Neishie. I am faculty at University of

San Francisco, our show's host and a partnership with the Cap Center UCSB. And I'm joined today by

Dr. Cabin Concanon, who is associate professor of religion at the University of Southern California.

And before just letting everybody know about all your accolades and great things, I'll just say

Cabin, thanks for joining me. It's great to be here. Thanks for having me.

So you are by training a biblical scholar, have written some some very what I would call

focused works on, you know, biblical literature, assembling early Christianity, trade networks

in the letters of Dionysius of Corinth. When you were Gentiles, specters of ethnicity in a Roman

Corinth and Paul's Francine correspondents. And so I love having biblical scholars like you on

because there's no more greater street cred than the biblical scholar who digs into scripture

as a as a profession. You are also somebody working on an amazing project with Jill Hicks Keaton

on the Museum of the Bible. We've had Jill on and just can't wait to sort of see that project

appear in the world and hopefully have both of you back to talk about it and dig into the very

strange and peculiar phenomenon that is the Museum of the Bible. Associate Professor at USC,

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