Confronting Race, Religion and Her Heart | With Zawe Ashton
Modern Love
The New York Times
4.3 • 9K Ratings
🗓️ 24 June 2020
⏱️ 28 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Modern Love The Podcast is supported by... |
| 0:05.0 | Produced by the I-Leb, at WBUR Boston. |
| 0:20.0 | From The New York Times and WBUR Boston, this is Modern Love. |
| 0:26.0 | The New York Times |
| 0:29.0 | Stories of Love, Laws, and Redemption |
| 0:33.0 | I'm your host, Megna Chacrabardi. |
| 0:41.0 | In this week's essay, Lillian Oben writes about how essential it is to be seen in relationships |
| 0:47.0 | without being asked to change who we are. |
| 0:50.0 | Her piece is read by Zowie Ashton. |
| 0:52.0 | Zowie recently starred in Betrayal on Broadway and in the film Velvet Buzzsaw. |
| 1:00.0 | Even before he spoke, I knew a woman I would meet years later described the sensation as |
| 1:08.0 | feeling it in the skin. |
| 1:11.0 | I felt the words he was about to say in my skin. |
| 1:16.0 | In his, I can't do this anymore. |
| 1:22.0 | I heard what he was really saying. |
| 1:25.0 | Something flashed red before my eyes. |
| 1:28.0 | I was shaking, holding the phone to one ear, screaming, but unable to speak. |
| 1:34.0 | I thought maybe the worst was over, but he went on to state the obvious that I was black and not Jewish. |
| 1:46.0 | He explained that he was not ready to handle the complexities of an interracial relationship in a country like this. |
| 1:54.0 | As if it were the 1960s and we were Richard and Mildred Loving. |
| 1:59.0 | Or as if I had fooled him by making a racial and religious switch midway through our relationship. |
| 2:06.0 | My throat closed, my chest tightened my eyes stung. |
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