Confronting Hot Topics - with activist Mr. Jones X
Breaking Down Patriarchy
Amy McPhie Allebest
4.9 • 654 Ratings
🗓️ 18 February 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Amy is joined by activist, advocate, and influencer Mr. Jones X to strategize around hot topics and confrontations, including DEI, Critical Race Theory, and bringing men into our movement for a more just future.
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Mr. Jones X is a well-known activist, political commentator, and courageous debater. His mastery of intersectionality and the importance of advocating from the bottom up distinguish him from the average content creator. These abilities have earned him numerous speaking engagements, invitations to panel discussions, and national attention for his debates. Jones is also an entrepreneur with TUFF (Transformative Uprising for Freedom), a socially conscious clothing company, in which his products are manufactured by a local minority women-owned business and the designs allow customers to wear their protest.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee, All the Best. As listeners know, a part of this project's mission from the very beginning has been to be hard on systems but soft on people. And I keep this maxim really close to my heart because I truly believe that very few people in history have actually formed oppressive systems on purpose. Rather, as historian |
| 0:22.7 | Gertel Lerner says, the systems of oppression often evolve quietly over many centuries through |
| 0:27.6 | small decisions and sometimes without realizing what the consequences will be. And also, if we're |
| 0:33.2 | serious about the work of breaking down these systems, then we're going to have to call in as many |
| 0:38.0 | allies as we can from as many walks of life as possible to form community and a culture of |
| 0:43.5 | mutual liberation. However, with that said, we do sometimes encounter people who are forming |
| 0:51.0 | oppressive systems on purpose or who have such deeply ingrained patriarchal or white supremacist views, |
| 0:58.7 | that polite conversation becomes impossible. |
| 1:02.3 | And confrontation seems to be the only path forward. |
| 1:05.6 | So how do we make space for these confrontations? |
| 1:08.8 | Should we even try in a culture where our ethics, our beliefs, |
| 1:12.6 | and even our basic understanding of facts have become polarizing issues, how do we approach |
| 1:19.0 | the people in our lives with whom we most bitterly disagree and have a somewhat productive |
| 1:25.2 | dialogue? I am still figuring that out. And so today I am really |
| 1:30.5 | excited to be welcoming to the show an activist, political commentator, and courageous debater, |
| 1:35.9 | Mr. Jones X, who has made a name for himself both through his outspoken advocacy on social media |
| 1:42.2 | and through his willingness to debate opponents on some of the |
| 1:45.6 | most inflammatory topics of our day. I'm really excited to learn more about his work, his tactics, |
| 1:53.1 | and how he approaches these super difficult conversations. So I'm super excited to welcome to this show. |
| 1:59.6 | Mr. Jones X or Jones, thank you so much for being here today, Jones. I'm so excited about this conversation. |
| 2:05.1 | Thank you for having me. So am I. This is how I started my platform. I didn't really talk about politics a lot when I got on the platform. I mean, I would on occasion, but that wasn't really like the crux of the things that I was trying to |
| 2:18.1 | accomplish. Before TikTok, I wasn't really a social media person at all. As a matter of fact, |
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