Hey everybody. Welcome to our monthly leadership podcast. If you are a regular

podcast subscriber you know that Lane Jones is normally our host, but today I'm filling in for Lane because one of my favorite people in the world is filling in for me.

Now, if you were to ask me, as sometimes I'm asked who outside of your family Andy or outside of your parents were the most influential people in your life

The first person on my list is our guest today Charlie Renthrow Charlie has been a mentor, we'll talk about that, he's been a friend,

he's been a board member, and for those of you who've read any of my books

or listen to any of my messages, I have quoted Charlie more than anybody else. In fact, Charlie, I've quoted you so many times I started changing your name, so people thought I had more than one friend or more than one influence in my life.

Charlie and Patty have five children, three sons that work in the family business, one son that's in heaven.

His daughter, Krista, also works in family business, 11 grandchildren, and Charlie and I met 30 we figured this up yesterday 30 years ago

I met 30 years ago and about 1985 when I was starting my first real job Charlie you were about I think we figured up you were

43 or 44 years old and she said you were fighting alligators and bank officers we're

going to talk about that Charlie was a participated in our church when I was working from my father and his kids were in our youth group and I was a youth pastor.

And so one day this 40-something-year-old guy walks up to me and says, hey Andy, let's have breakfast.

We had breakfast, that became a regular thing and it literally, as you're going to discover,

impacted my life in a significant, significant way.

And the story that most of you who have listened to me

for some time have heard me tell about Charlie,

and this will put it all in context.

Charlie would walk into the original house of pancakes.

I'd be there waiting for him about 6.30 in the morning. He'd be all dressed up in his suit and his tie and his cuff links and he'd

sit down and smack his ring down on the table and say, Andy, what you're working on big?

What you're working on big? And at that point in my my life I wasn't working on anything big big

big was just trying to get to work and keep my job but Charlie believed that I had the

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