Conflicted Revisited... 9/11

CONFLICTED

Message Heard

History, Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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On the anniversary, we go all the way back to where it all started with Conflicted, Episode One - 9/11. Where were you on 9/11? Thomas and Aimen use this historic event as a starting point as they tease out how al-Qaeda went from being a small army of jihadists seeking a caliphate in the Middle East to main player, at the centre of the global stage. Season 5 has ended, but if you still want to have your Conflicted fix , then you’ll have to join our Conflicted Community. Subscribers will get bonus episodes every other week, and can also join our Conflicted Community chatroom, where you can interact with fellow dearest listeners, discuss episodes past and future, get exclusive messages from Thomas and Aimen, ask future Q&A questions and so much more. All the information you need to sign up to the Conflicted Community is on this link: https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/ Conflicted is proudly made by Message Heard, a full-stack podcast production agency which uses its extensive expertise to make its own shows such as Conflicted, shows for commissioners such as the BBC, Spotify and Al Jazeera, and powerfully effective podcasts for other companies too. If you’d like to find out how we can help get your organisation’s message heard, visit messageheard.com or drop an email to hello@messageheard.com! Find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MHconflicted And Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Ever wondered what power is.
0:02.5	Power is transforming the sun into your own energy source.
0:06.8	Power is getting energy companies to pay you.
0:10.0	Power is enjoying your morning coffee, knowing you created the energy to make it.
0:16.1	Well, you and the colossal ball of fire in the sky.
0:19.3	Because with solar panels from Hive, the sun works for you.
0:23.1	Hive, know your power.
0:25.0	May not cover all electricity usage, roof and weather dependent.
0:27.7	Paid for surplus requires eligible SEC tariff.
0:31.1	Welcome to the first episode of Conflicted, a new podcast from Message Heard.
0:39.2	My name is Thomas Small and I'll be your host.
0:44.6	So the Middle East, the Muslim world, it's a place of conflict, endless conflict.
0:52.0	Sometimes people think they know more than they do about these conflicts. Sometimes they
0:56.8	know that they don't know anything about them, but they wish to know. What we're going to do is
1:01.8	try to unpick these conflicts the best we can, expose the ideological underpinnings of the sides
1:07.7	involved, contextualize them historically, add perspective from our personal
1:12.8	experiences living in and studying the Middle East.
1:16.2	So that hopefully at the end of each episode, you'll come away thinking, aha, I understand.
1:22.5	This is a hard thing to resolve.
1:24.5	These conflicts exist for a reason.
1:26.9	It's not necessarily a question of good versus evil.
1:30.0	It's a very nuanced problem. You're going to hear from my co-host, Amin Dean, in just a minute,
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