Hello and welcome to the Storygrid podcast. My name is Tim Graal. I'm the CEO of Storygrid Universe,

and I'm a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a story that works.

Joining me shortly is Sean Coyne, the creator and founder of Storygrid Universe, and a writer and storyteller with over 30 years of experience.

Along with him is Leslie Watts, the editor-in-chief of StoryGrid Publishing,

and Danielle Kiyoski, the chief academic officer of Story Grid University. In this episode,

we're continuing to work on my scene based on the master work eyewitness by Ed McBain. And one of the things I had to remind myself in this episode and continue to remind myself

and maybe even remind you as the listeners of this series is that the point of doing this

exercise is to get better at a skill set.

This is what I'm working on is building up lots of skill sets. And as you see,

each week I'm learning something new. I'm having new insights into things. But at the same time,

I'm iterating on the same thing over and over and over. And some of you have emailed me.

And some of you have been legitimately worried for me.

Some of you feel like we're spending too much time on this.

And I get what you're saying.

I understand what you're saying.

I could see how from the outside that's what this looks like.

But the way I see it is I have three experts that are taking their time to constantly look at how I can become a better writer.

Some of you have even written in and said that you like the scenes that I've written

and you think they're good enough.

And I like the scenes I've written too.

But again, that's not what this is about.

This isn't creating a scene that I like, a scene that's publishable or a short story

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