Welcome to the intersection of faith and culture as the Wall Builder Show,

and we take on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical and constitutional perspective

here with David Barton, America's premier historian and our founder at Wall Builders.

Tim Barton is a national speaker and pastor and president of wallbuilders.

And I'm Rick Green America's Constitution Coach. You can find out more about all three of us

at our main website, wallbuilders.com. That's wallbuilders.com for all the great tools and

different materials we've got coming out. And you can also tap into our radio archives at

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contribution there at wallbuilders.com by coming alongside us, putting some fuel on the tank so we can

reach more pastors, more teachers, more legislators, all the different things that we're doing

to influence the culture. We appreciate you being part of that. David and Tim, talking about

influence in the culture, doing that well, right? The left has always done that

well, for 50 years has done that well in movies and music and education and everything else.

We're getting better. We're getting better. We're starting to articulate better. We're

starting to do better at dismantling the arguments of the left. And later in the program,

Ali Beth Stuckey will be with us to talk about how the left has taken those words like love and tolerance and everything else to manipulate, honestly,

folks in the church. So we'll be talking about her new book. But this is critical, man. I do think

we're getting better, though. Don't y'all think we're starting to see some leaders on our side get a lot

better at what's the right I guess countering the

arguments of the left when they use our language. Yeah, I would say that we're definitely

getting better, but I would say that in some ways we're still not engaged like we should be.

Our leaders need a lot more support when they get engaged. And part of it is confidence.

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