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The Documentary Podcast

Confessions of a mafia boss

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Across Italy hundreds of mafia leaders, hitmen and drug-traffickers are being jailed thanks to the most powerful weapon now in the hands of Italy’s anti-mafia investigators: the words of one clan against another. Italy’s state collaborator scheme has seen mafia chiefs breaking the code of silence - in return for a lifetime in witness protection, rather than a life behind bars. For Assignment, Dominic Casciani gets exclusive access to an anti-mafia prison to meet one of Naples' most important “Penitents” - a boss and killer whose evidence has jailed his associates. In the city itself, he witnesses, alongside hardened investigators, the ongoing nightly battle against the Camorra - and also hears voices of hope across the city that the tide has finally turned.

Presenter: Dominic Casciani Producer: Sheila Cook

Image: Gennaro Panzuto Credit: Private

Transcript

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0:00.0

My crimes range from murder, attempted murder, mafia association,

0:09.0

my crimes range from murder, attempted murder, mafia association, drug trafficking, arms trafficking, money laundering and extortion.

0:18.0

The usual. General Panzutto is a man with an extraordinary story, a story of crimes committed

0:29.8

across Europe, a flight from justice, and long empty years have come into terms with what

0:36.2

he did.

0:38.7

Welcome to assignment on the BBC World Service.

0:41.4

I'm Dominic Cashiani. I'm in the maximum security prison high in the Italian Alps.

0:55.0

Zava?

0:57.0

Dominic.

0:58.0

General of Anselman.

1:00.0

Yeah, sir.

1:01.0

I'm in the maximum security prison high in the Italian Alps to hear Janaro Panzuto tell that story.

1:07.0

We meet in a whitewashed cell that's baking in the heat.

1:10.0

As we begin to talk, prison guards occasionally look through as their prisoner

1:15.6

wants a mafia boss and Naples tells me how he killed for criminal control of the city.

1:20.8

I don't remember the faces.

1:25.0

I don't remember them anymore.

1:28.0

But what I do remember, thundering around my mind until today,

1:32.0

is the dull thud the person falling after you shot them.

1:36.5

I remember the screams of the children, the women ringing in my ears.

1:41.1

They're not going to be here. 12 years ago,

1:47.0

ago Janaro Panzoto took an extraordinary step for a man who helped run the Kamora clans, the unique mafia groups that prey on Naples.

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