Confessions Of A Former MegaChurch Pastor | Tony Wood
The 9941 Podcast
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4.9 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 21 April 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
This week Granger interviews Tony Wood about the doctrines of grace, human depravity, and God’s sovereignty in salvation. Tony emphasizes that salvation is entirely the work of God—humans are spiritually dead and unable to seek Him without divine intervention. He explains how this challenges modern views of autonomy, particularly in American culture, and often stirs discomfort around the idea of God’s control over all things, including evil and salvation.
Despite the tension between God’s sovereignty and human responsibility, Tony affirms that Scripture teaches both. He shares his personal journey from thinking he chose God to realizing that God had chosen him, seeing this truth consistently throughout the biblical narrative—from creation to Christ to the birth of the Church.
This theological shift profoundly changed Tony’s preaching. Instead of crafting messages around felt needs or cultural trends, he now practices expositional preaching—teaching the Bible verse by verse and letting Scripture shape the message. Granger and Tony agree that true church health begins in the pulpit, where God’s Word—not style, music, or production—must remain central. They encourage believers to seek churches that faithfully and deeply preach the Bible.
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| 0:00.0 | Well, brother, thank you so much for taking this time. |
| 0:04.3 | You are a friend. |
| 0:07.2 | You're also a pastor. |
| 0:09.0 | You're a, you are, you're so careful and bold and courageous and humble and gentle. |
| 0:20.3 | And it kind of all wrapped up into one and and I just I'm blessed to know you |
| 0:24.9 | and I feel the same brother what an honor to to jump on with you today and just I think I told you |
| 0:31.6 | before like your the way that you balance truth and kindness is next level man man. And so it's a privilege to be your |
| 0:38.0 | friend and watch you do ministry. Well, thank you, brother. I was trying to think before you got on here |
| 0:43.9 | how exactly we met. And so I think I can give it a shot here. I saw you on a podcast, and it was |
| 0:53.8 | with Kosti. I know that's the first time I saw you. |
| 0:56.6 | And I just thought, wow, this guy, this guy's story, you know, praise the Lord. So I went and |
| 1:03.7 | followed you on Instagram. And then I believe this is the part where he gets hazy. I believe I was |
| 1:09.4 | kind of liking your post, commenting. |
| 1:12.9 | And at some point, somebody DM'd each other. |
| 1:15.4 | It was you or me. |
| 1:17.0 | Do you remember? |
| 1:18.0 | I didn't know who you were. |
| 1:19.1 | And I hate to say that because I've since learned. |
| 1:22.0 | But all I saw was there was a singer guy that had followed and was liking things. And then the first time I clicked on your name, I saw the story, obviously, about Luzon River. |
| 1:33.3 | And so what I did is I text, I said, hey, man, is this a story that you tell? |
| 1:38.3 | And you said, absolutely, I'd love to. |
| 1:40.3 | But I didn't know you'd written the book. |
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