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🗓️ 22 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | You were listening to a pleasure podcast. |
| 0:03.3 | For more from our sex podcast collective, visit pleasurepodcasts.com. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered. I have a really special guest today. I've actually been following her on Instagram for quite a while. And so when she reached out to me and said that she was coming out to L.A., I just felt |
| 0:38.6 | like this was a conversation that was meant to be. She is somebody who is truly redefining |
| 0:45.0 | the conversation around sex work. She's the manager of one of Europe's largest legal brothels, |
| 0:51.3 | and she's currently pursuing a PhD on prostitution and policy. She believes sex work can be safe, dignels, and she's currently pursuing a Ph.D. on prostitution and policy. She believes |
| 0:56.4 | sex work can be safe, dignified, and even empowering when done voluntarily and within a legal |
| 1:01.5 | framework. We'll talk about what really goes on behind the doors of a European club, why |
| 1:07.0 | American men might actually be the best clients in a surprising way that sex work can |
| 1:12.2 | change lives. Welcome, Catherine Dunaire. Thank you for having me. Yeah, no, thank you. I'm so |
| 1:18.9 | excited to have you here. I just find you to be really fascinating and I love that you're going out |
| 1:23.0 | there and you're talking so openly about what you do because I always talk about how there's such a mystery |
| 1:28.9 | and, you know, a veil over sex work in general. And I, you know, come from many, many years in the |
| 1:34.8 | porn industry, but you work on the other side of sex work in a brothel. So, like, there's things that |
| 1:41.0 | I don't really know much about. So I'm excited to learn from you today. |
| 1:45.3 | Now, you started as a psychologist. So what led you to brothel management? It was one big coincidence. |
| 1:51.9 | So I decided to go to psychology because I always had this passion for like talking with people, |
| 1:58.6 | like being around people. And like, I like to think, like, |
| 2:02.4 | what is going on inside our heads? |
| 2:04.2 | So at some point I was like, okay, maybe I will just try psychology. |
| 2:07.7 | And it's like really hard to get in, but like I managed to get in. |
| 2:11.8 | And so I started to study psychology. |
| 2:14.4 | And then I found neuropsychology. and I did my internship in one of the biggest |
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