I don't know what those white people in this country feel,

but I can only include what they feel from the state of their institution.

Now, this is the evidence.

You want me to make an act of faith, risking myself, my wife, my woman, my sister, my children,

on some idealism which you assure me

exists in America, which I have never seen. Welcome back to Black History for White People,

a podcast where we educate, resource, and challenge white people about Black history. I'm Brad,

and on today's show are my co-host

Katina and Garin. Today's topic is Confederate Monuments. This is part two of the episode, so if you

haven't listened to part one, make sure to go back in your feed and take a listen. We first meet up

with Mr. Willie Hudspeth on the Denton Square to discuss the Confederate soldier monument that stood

for over 100 years. We then go to Miss Ruby L. Cole's house to discuss her history with the monument

and her experience living in Denton. We hope you enjoy the discussion. I'm interviewing Mr. Willie Hutzpeth.

He is an activist, a minister of the gospel, a Vietnam veteran, and just, I don't know, he's just been, I've seen him since I came to Denton

on the Denton Access Channel, just always doing the work of activism, always compelling the city

and the county to do right by children. I mean, he's been engaged in education and just all forms of activism.

It's just been amazing to watch him over the years.

And I will say that it's because of his work, 26 years.

21 years here, but many more years.

Since 1980, 1980.

Since 1980, of trying to get this monument, the Confederate monument down in Denton.

Every Sunday, without fail, four to seven,

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