I don't necessarily think I was raised right.

I could have told to that.

I mean I've learned that in therapy absolutely.

Yeah.

I've been like kind of almost feral. I didn't grow up in a household where I was taught a lot of empathy or where

where race was discussed at all. I think my parents would absolutely consider

themselves to be not racist. But I think that they also would absolutely scoff at the notion of white privilege

One of the worst things is a blue-collar mentality with a white-collar checkbook. Yeah

They did grow up in homes with a white-collar checkbook. Yeah.

They did grow up in homes with abusive fathers who were NYPD cops.

They think that they've had it hard because they had nowhere to turn

and they had to sort of do it on their own and they didn't have anyone to pay for their education.

And when they hear someone say the word privilege, they can't even think about it as a concept beyond like what it traditionally, what privileged

traditionally or very literally means as far as class goes. So that's just

like a background on my ignorance.

Yeah.

And like why I've been stupid or I was stupid.

So you're saying you're not stupid at the moment.

I'm saying that I've been stupid and I'm less stupid now.

Okay, but still...

I'm probably still a little bit stupid maybe. Yeah. I'm probably so stupid. I don't know what I'm

stupid about.

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