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Hey, what's news listeners. It's Sunday, November 23rd. I'm Alex Oslo for the Wall Street Journal.

This is What's News Sunday. On the show this week, we're bringing you an episode of our sister podcast, Bold Names, hosted by WSJ columnist Christopher Mims and Tim Higgins.

This episode features former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. I'm joined now by one of the hosts of bold names, Christopher Mims.

Christopher Condoleezza Rice. I think most people know her as the Secretary of State under George

W. Bush. Now she leads the Hoover Institution at Stanford University and is a founding partner

of strategic consulting firm,

Rice, Hadley, Gates, and Manuel. What makes her well positioned to speak to this geopolitical

moment that we're in? She talks to a wide variety of CEOs about what they're dealing with.

And of course, because companies are more multinational than

ever, and they're having to deal with things that affect their operations all over the globe,

like tariffs, she's really become that kind of CEO whisper, but also a CEO listener.

Was there anything that she said during your conversation with her that surprised you?

Yes. So we're always talking about this new Cold War between the U.S. and China.

She doesn't like that comparison. And it's hard to think of somebody who's more qualified

to disagree on that count than Condoleezza Rice.

Thanks, Christopher.

Now, let's hear what Rice had to say in your interview for bold names.

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