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From Cafe, welcome to Stay Tuned. I'm your host, Preet Bharara.

I'm a big advocate for second chances because I got a second chance. Most of the people

that I advocate for, I believe, defies their first legitimate chance. But because I was

a beneficiary of people who believed in me after I screwed up very publicly, I have devoted

my life to this work. That's my guest on the show today, Catherine

Hoek. Catherine is the CEO of Defy Ventures. Defy Ventures is sort of an unusual, non-profit

that tries to help people who have been sentenced to prison in America transition to life outside

of prison by helping them become entrepreneurs. Before we get to my conversation with Catherine,

let me answer your questions. Hey, Preet, it's Eric calling from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

My question is more political than legal. But do you believe Senator Bob Corcor is recent

comments about Trump being unfit to serve in a potential danger to the country, could

open the floodgates for more Republicans to criticize or completely break away from the

president? What political incentives would need to exist for the GOP to completely divorce

Trump?

Well, look, Eric, I'm not a politician. I don't aspire to be one. And I'm not a political

consultant, but I am a citizen of the country. And I did make some comments on Twitter

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