For nearly 50 years, Patagonia has given a damn about people and the environment.

And through that work, they've learned that knowledge is foundational,

transcending physical space and nodding generations together.

Knowledge invites change and forms the bedrock of communities.

In a new series of stories, Patagonia brings us the voices of elders,

young people, mentors and teachers. Stories grounded in wild places and activism.

Knowledge is a vessel. To be shared, kept, evolved and passed on.

Find more at Patagonia.com slash stories.

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Fits you just got back from a river trip.

That is correct. How was it?

Oh, you know, it's pretty awesome to spend a week drifting down a river with a giant

crew of kids and great friends and adults. We started doing the river trips because it was

harder to go do wilderness trips, backcountry wilderness trips with kids,

because like there's so much stuff and they can't carry as much.

And these have become incredible ways to see our kids spend, you know, four to six days,

just truly in a place where they have so much free play.

They get to engage with things that challenge them and they really just, oh my god,

it's just like they stop asking questions and they're all on their own and they're like,

this little community, it's great. So yeah, it was an incredible trip.

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