We don't give the people who are at the center of a grieving moment enough space to say,

I know what I need. And we do this awkward thing and let me know if you need anything, but it's, right? it's just sort of like just follow me and

don't make me say words and let me do what I need to do and just have my back I'm Autumn Brown and I'm Adrian Marie Brown and this is how to survive the end of the world

our podcast about learning from apocalypse with grace, rigor, and curiosity.

You'll never see me again, like Quentin Tarantino,

I start at the end of everything.

When we talk about the end of the world,

we need to think about what is ending.

This episode is about exploring endings. And we begin, as usual, with some wisdom from Octavia Butler's Earth Seed.

To survive, let the past teach you.

Past customs, struggles, leaders, and thinkers.

Let these help you.

Let them inspire you, warn you, give you strength.

But beware, God is change.

Past is past. What was cannot come again. To survive, know the past. Let

it touch you. Then let the past go.

So we've had a major day here, and here is outside of Avon, Minnesota, where Autumn and her family call home.

We live on five acres of land in the woods in rural Central Minnesota and the nearest

town is called Avon and about a thousand people live there.

And when I say and about a thousand people live there.

And when I say the woods, I mean, literally, we live like most of our land is forested

and we have ponds and stuff.

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