Complete Guide to United's Couponized Cards | Frequent Miler on the Air Ep299 | 3-28-25
Frequent Miler on the Air
Frequent Miler
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🗓️ 29 March 2025
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
A few years ago American Express introduced this kind of model for their Platinum card where they increased their annual fee, but attempted to make up for it by offering a whole collection of credits and rebates that could be valuable if you did the work to make use of them and happened to have natural needs for them. In other words, these new benefits felt a lot like coupons, thus introducing the nickname for these kinds of card benefits. Now, United seems to be taking a page from American Express' book by "couponizing" their credit cards.
(02:02) - Denbigh writes in about our "getting started with points and miles" episode saying "Thank You for an episode worth the time, even for an experienced practitioner."
Find our Getting started with points & miles episode 298 here.
(4:02) - As previously reported, Southwest is planning reduced earnings on paid flights, expiring flight credits, charging for checked bags, and changing the value of points
(04:50) - Point value changes already taking place
Read more about the variable points values here.
(07:23) - Other Info revealed in Southwest's recent video
Read more about their updates in that video here.
(12:05) - No-go for Capital One / Discover acquisition. DOJ doesn't like it
Read more about this DOJ decision here.
(12:56) - Citi (seemingly) no longer allowing product changes between card families
(15:53) - Greg apparently never got credit for one of his 15 flights...
(19:38) - Air France / KLM saver availability from the US stinks
(24:23) - Bilt April Rent Day: Up to 100% bonus to Avios
(27:59) - Wyndham point sale not as fixed as we thought (thru April 15)
Find our Wyndham’s Excellent Point Sale episode 50 here.
(29:00) - Six United cards have increased annual fees, decreased benefits (slightly) and added "coupons"
(30:32) - Summary of changes
(45:45) - New Card Line-Up Overview
(46:28) - "Coupon" Deep Dive
(1:01:04) - If you still want a United card, which is best?
Read more about which United card is best here.
(1:05:42) - Which club card is best?
(1:08:27) - How do you manage the fear of account shut-down?
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| 0:00.0 | This is a Voyescape podcast. |
| 0:03.9 | You can find all of our travel podcasts from around the world at voyescape.com. |
| 0:11.2 | Today's main event, complete guide to United's couponized cards. |
| 0:16.6 | Frequent Miller on the air starts now. |
| 0:25.8 | A few years back, American Express introduced the coupon book. |
| 0:33.4 | That is, they refreshed their platinum card, and what that meant is they increased the annual fee and added a whole bunch of ways that you could get more than that back, you know, as statement |
| 0:41.2 | credits or other kind of rebates and things. But they were all for like specific things you |
| 0:46.5 | had to do that could easily be things that where you'd have to spend more than you would have |
| 0:50.7 | otherwise in order to get those rebates. And so we looked at all those |
| 0:54.7 | things and we started calling them coupons. And we started calling the new platinum card, |
| 0:59.0 | the coupon book. But that term was like based on this idea that it was just the platinum card. |
| 1:05.0 | And the problem is over time, Ammec started doing the same thing to other cards, adding higher annual fees and more coupons. |
| 1:14.6 | And now the plague has spread to Chase and United, like in a big, big way. |
| 1:21.5 | You know, Chase and United have embraced this idea, and they've won up Amex in like every way with their new United Card lineup. |
| 1:30.3 | Never underestimate the appeal of the coupon book, or at least the perceived appeal of a |
| 1:37.3 | coupon book, I guess, is the moral of the story, because my goodness, issuers seem to think |
| 1:41.2 | we want more and more of these coupons. We'll talk more about that today. If you want to jump ahead to a specific segment or you want to go back to something later on, don't forget, you'll always find the timestamps in the show notes. Just expand the description box so you can see the timestamps. And that's also where you'll find links to more information about all the stuff that we'll be talking about. Of course, you can always just Google Frequent Myler and whatever the topic name is. And you'll probably find it as well. Wherever you're watching or listening to this, don't forget to like the video or the podcast. Give us a thumbs up. Leave us a review with some stars, that type of thing. We appreciate all of that stuff. All right. Let's drag out this week's giant mail bag. All right. This week's giant mail is in reference to last week's podcast called Getting Started |
| 2:20.9 | with Points and Miles. |
| 2:23.2 | Denby writes in. |
| 2:24.9 | Denby says, I'm a longtime listener to the FM podcast and a player in this game. |
| 2:29.8 | Longtime player that means. |
| 2:31.4 | My member since, so that's the thing that's on like your |
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