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🗓️ 30 November 2025
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According to political scientist Steven Levitsky, America is lingering in an in-between state between democracy and authoritarianism. Institutions have been hijacked, the truth has been vandalized, and our democratic norms are being destroyed or even ignored. But- is Trump weaker than we think?
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Tom Hartman program. |
| 0:16.6 | Daily take over at Hartman Report.com is the assault on democracy stronger than we think |
| 0:21.0 | and nearing permanent control. My point is that Trump and the billionaires, the fascist, |
| 0:26.9 | the neo-fascist, billionaires, and the foreign fascists, that he's aligned himself and, |
| 0:30.7 | and as a result the United States, or at least part of the United States with, are in some |
| 0:36.3 | ways stronger than I think most Americans realize, |
| 0:38.6 | and in some ways weaker than some of us who are in despair realized. |
| 0:42.7 | Stephen Levitsky, the co-author of How Democracies Die, says that there's like this spectrum. |
| 0:48.6 | You know, on the far, on one far side of the line is, you know, democracy, functioning democracy. |
| 0:55.3 | And the other far end of the line is oligarchy, autocracy, tyranny, despotism, dictatorship. |
| 1:03.0 | And in between is this thing that he calls competitive authoritarianism. |
| 1:08.1 | In other words, you have an authoritarian government. |
| 1:10.4 | It rules by fear, |
| 1:12.8 | and it exploits the rule of law to go after people that it doesn't like. You know, the way |
| 1:17.4 | Trump is going after James Comey right now, for example, or ICE is going after protesters. |
| 1:23.3 | And yet, you still have elections. It's still, quote, competitive. Not really, but sort of. |
| 1:29.9 | And that's the world that, according to Stephen Levinsky, we are now fully in. I think it's a |
| 1:35.4 | reasonable description. They're using the nation's systems to skew the rules to restrict opposition, |
| 1:40.7 | to weaponize institutions, to vandalize the truth, to destroy and ignore |
| 1:45.4 | democratic norms. I mean, we're about halfway down that road in just a short 10 months. |
| 1:52.5 | And the template for this, of course, is Project 2025, which Victor Orban and his buddies |
| 1:58.1 | gave to the Heritage Foundation, spoke with the people from the Heritage |
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