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My name is Todd Pruitt. I am half of your hosting team. I'm the pastor at Covenant Presbyterian Church in Harrisonburg, Virginia.

And I am joined as always by the Reverend Dr. Carl Truman, who teaches

church history at Westminster Theological Seminary here in Philadelphia, and he is also the pastor

of Cornerstone Presbyterian Church in Ambler, Pennsylvania. I pastor, Carl does everything. He writes books. He teaches. He pastors. He shaves. All of those

great things, right, Carl? I do my best, Todd. And in my spare time, I try to be a husband and a father as well.

You are. You are. How is the transition going to the PCA? Couldn't be better. Couldn't be better. I'm a part of

the club. Well, part of one club anyway. I am a part of one club, yeah. Definitely moving in the right

direction. Right. I'm not OPC. Carl is Orthodox Presbyterian Church. That makes the fact that he actually

has a sense of humor somewhat odd. Ouch. But I want him to fact that he actually has a sense of humor somewhat odd but but I want him to know

that he's he's welcome in the PCA at at any time we'd be welcome to forgive him like

groucho marks I would never join a club that would have me as a member actually tart and

all I can say to you in the PCA is you're not far from the kingdom of heaven.

Good.

Well, today we're having one of the podcasts where we deal with a more serious matter perhaps

than sometimes we address.

Anybody involved in Christian ministry, anybody involved in the church is probably going to come across at

some point somebody suffering from terminal illness. It is something that respects no class, ethnic, age,

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