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Comparing countries, the risk to NHS staff, and birdsong

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BBC

News Commentary, Science, Mathematics, News

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

We compare Covid-19 rates around the world. Headlines say NHS staff are dying in large numbers, how bad is it? And is it just us, or have the birds started singing really loudly?

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds Music Radio Podcasts

0:04.5

Hello and welcome to more or less with me, Tim Halford. Do you find numbers fascinating,

0:11.1

vital, important and occasionally confusing?

0:14.6

300,000 and 34, 974,000 tests.

0:19.8

1,870,000,000 tests. We're here to help out, be you pretty Patel, Donald Trump or any

0:27.8

other loyal listener who happens along. This week, this lockdown hurts, but it's saving

0:33.4

lives, so when are we going to be passed the worst? Can we compare how successful different

0:38.5

countries have been at containing the virus? Nurses, doctors and even bus drivers seem

0:44.0

to be dying at alarming rates, so how bad is the situation and why? And saving the biggest

0:50.9

issue until last, is it just me or have the birds started singing really loudly?

0:57.3

So first, we all want this to be over as soon as possible. I mean, the coronavirus pandemic,

1:03.2

not the program, so understandably, people are trying to figure out when the death rate

1:07.7

in the UK is going to reach a peak, and then we hope, decline. Dr Jason Oak is a senior

1:13.8

statistician at the Nuffield Department of Primary Care Health Sciences at the University

1:18.4

of Oxford. He's been searching for this peak in a particular set of data.

1:23.2

The number you hear in the press that actually refers to deaths that occurred yesterday

1:29.0

and the day before that and the day before that, sometimes going back as far as a month.

1:34.6

And so it doesn't necessarily correspond to the number of people dying on a given day.

1:39.4

And it's when you start to look at that data, and that is released by NHS England, it's

1:44.4

just not broadcast in general. Then it's easier to see actually what's happening on a day

1:49.4

by day basis. So you've been recalculating the figures so that you can see how many deaths

1:55.6

occurred on each day rather than how many deaths have been announced each day. What those

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