Communion, Protestantism, & the Love of God (Pt. 2) | Francis Chan & Gavin Ortlund

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Crazy Love Ministries

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Religion, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality:christianity

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🗓️ 8 December 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Today, Francis Chan and Gavin Ortlund continue their conversation and share practical, everyday ways to connect with God’s holiness, His deep love for us, and the call to live in the constant awareness of what Jesus’ death and resurrection means for us in the here and now. Drawing from passages like 1 Thessalonians 5 and Ephesians 3, Francis reminds us that God calls us to both warn the wandering and tenderly encourage the fainthearted with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, knowing that even when we make mistakes, He will teach and grow us through them. Gavin speaks vulnerably about navigating public ministry in an age of outrage, and how vital it is to withdraw from the noise and anchor ourselves in the simple, freeing truth of the gospel. Together, they offer practical wisdom for cultivating silence as a form of connection with God, strengthening yourself in Him, and entering His presence with confidence rather than condemnation. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the pressure to defend yourself, discouraged by online battles that never seem to end, or unsure how to grow in both truth and love at the same time, this episode will help you refocus your heart on Jesus and reflect His love for the world.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Crazy Love podcast.
0:07.0	Are you living and speaking from a place of security in the Father's Love?
0:13.0	Today, Francis and Gavin Ortland continue their conversation around truth and love.
0:19.0	They explain how basking in the love of God is what keeps us grounded
0:23.5	through criticism, hardship, and complex problems. Francis also shares about his latest book, Beloved,
0:30.6	and gives practical advice on how to both abide and speak the truth in love.
0:40.6	I've been so blessed by your ministry over the years.
0:44.4	So even to get to sit down and talk with you, it feels like such an honor to me.
0:48.8	And, you know, what you're saying about we're starting with the gospel, we're leading with the gospel,
0:55.0	we're emphasizing the need to speak with love and humility that is as important as the things
1:02.6	we're saying. And then we're starting with the gospel, and then we don't have to know everything.
1:07.3	I don't have to know exactly what it will look like along the way to be faithful
1:13.9	to Christ and to seek unity, but also to content for truth.
1:17.1	And we can be a work in progress where pilgrims on the way, we're following Jesus.
1:22.7	We're figuring out.
1:23.7	My job isn't to be omniscient.
1:24.8	My job is to follow Jesus.
1:26.1	So I'm doing my best step by step.
1:28.3	And let's pastor people watching this who feel, who may need this gospel focus. Here's my feeling.
1:36.0	And I see what you think. I think a lot of young men, young women as well, they're watching my videos.
1:40.8	They're watching other things. They're in these conversations. they're searching through church history, and they're, the need of their heart is actually the love of
1:50.3	Christ. So they're thinking, you know, they feel this vulnerability because they realize, I'm not
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