You're listening to Family Talk, the radio broadcasting division of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I am that James Dobson, and I'm so pleased that you've joined us today. Well, hello everyone and welcome to Family Talk.

I'm Gary Bauer, the Senior Vice President of Public

Policy here at the James Thompson Family Institute. I'm also the host of

Defending Faith Family and Freedom Podcasts here at the JDFI and I'm honored to serve alongside my good friend, longtime friend Dr. James Dobson.

Now joining me on the program today is Gary Hamrick.

Gary is the senior pastor at Cornerstone Chapel in Leesburg, Virginia,

and he also has a radio program that is called The Cornerstone Connection that airs weekdays.

Gary is on the board of directors for the Museum of the Bible.

He serves as the chief chaplain for the Loudoun County, Virginia Sheriff's Office.

Gary and his wife, Terry, have three grown children and seven grandchildren.

Gary, welcome back to Family Talk.

We spent some time yesterday talking about the great issues facing America and the church and

the role of Christians in a country built on religious liberty.

So Gary, let's get right at it.

Thank you, Gary, it's good to be with you again.

Pastor, there are a lot of folks, a lot of pastors around America,

they would share our being upset about what was going on. They would be

being upset about what was going on in the school system,

but that would be as far as it would go.

They would say, well, I don't like that, but that's not what I'm called I'm called to preach the gospel and I don't

want to offend anybody in the church that might disagree over who's on the school board and so forth.

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